(Click to enlarge)This is one of the screen shots that someone at Gamestop took of the display case for reserving MW on the Wii. Sad isn't it? Do we really need to be this desperate to find any new info on this game? I guess the simple answer, is "yes" unfortunately.
Activision should be ashamed of themselves for not even releasing any new screens, videos or ads concerning that this game even exists on the Wii. I myself was starting to wonder if this game was really coming out or if it was just a joke. To it's credit; the development team seems to have been working hard on this game to make it as close to the HD versions as possible and they should get a pat on the back for that. I don't think it's their fault that Activision hasn't done anything to help their cause by essentially leaving them behind and forgetting about them so that Modern Warfare 2 gets all the publicity.
At least this isn't an on-rails shooter and at least Activision isn't coming out and saying that this game is a "test" of the Mature market on Nintendo's system. Believe me, the Mature market is pretty decent on the Wii and it would be a lot better if developers stop testing and teasing us with these "Mature" games that are dumbed down so "everyone" can play them. How does that work anyway? Sounds like gaming suicide to me. If Dead Space Extraction was really meant for the the hardcore mature gamer, why did the developer keep saying that anyone could pick it up and play? This attitude kind of defeats the purpose of making the game in the first place since if it's rated Mature not everyone can just pick it up and play it. Also since it's been simplified down to an on-rails experience, it's not going to be nearly as appealing to the actual "hardcore" gamers who want more control and interaction with games. So when Dead Space flopped, what the hell did EA expect? After that, of course, they release a statement basically saying: "see, we tried but no one bought the game so don't expect anymore Mature experiences from us" after already saying that DSE was a "test the Mature market on Wii" game. Yes, the game failed and I'm happy it did. There was no ads on TV for it and the developer simplified a game thats meant for an adult audience. Let this be a lesson to those Third Parties that want to follow suit: this type of game development just doesn't work. end of story.
How many posters, countdown clocks and ads have you seen for Call of Duty Modern Warfare 2? That game is everywhere! It's amazing actually. It's hard not to get sucked in by the hype since the game does look good and judging by how great COD4 was, there is no reason why MW2 won't be just as good. Especially on PC (lol). The point is, I have not seen one instance where a single Wii game by a Third Party has been advertised as much as that. Never. They only have themselves to blame for these games not selling very well. Why is it when I go back and play Star Fox Adventures or Soul Calibur II on Gamecube they look cleaner and more detailed than 90% of all Wii Third Party games? This is an old complaint, but it's something that still hasn't been corrected. Moving on....
I'll give you an example of how good the hardcore market actually is on Wii. Take into consideration that just about all of the Wii's mature or core games have had almost no advertising whatsoever. The sales numbers that I'm going to present are actually really good since most are getting done by a sad word of mouth without any help from the people that actually made the games.
Resident Evil 4 Wii Edition: 1.6 million
Resident Evil Umbrella Chronicles: 1.3 million
Call of Duty World At War: 1.3 million
Call of Duty 3: 1.2 million
Red Steel: 1.2 million
The House of the Dead 2&3: 1.1 million
Monster Hunter 3: 1 million
Ghost Squad: 600,000
No More Heroes: 450,000
The House of the Dead: Overkill: 410,000
Mad World: 330,000
Medal of Honor: Heroes 2: 300,000
The Conduit: 290,000
Manhunt 2: 240,000
The numbers are provided by vgchartz.com, I've come to trust them over the years since they are pretty close to the NPD on month to month sales and unlike the NPD, they actually do include Walmart. Anyways, I think those sales are mighty impressive for core games on the Wii and proof that a good game will find a way to sell even if it's only through bathroom talk from pit stop to pit stop (this might explain the sales for NMH). One can only imagine how much better the sales would have been for some of these games if there was some effort on the advertising front.
It can be done my friends, if you didn't believe before, hopefully I helped.
*Update*
It seems that the game has been released (or leaked) in Europe early and someone is posting videos on Youtube. Activision has actively been removing these videos extremely quick, which seems really stupid and unfortunate for the game in general. Do you want this game to fail Activision? It's bad enough that you haven't even released a new trailer or screens for this game but not even letting someone post an off camera video of it even if it appears to be a retail copy is insane.
Also, did you hear that the developer of the Wii version of the game Treyarch has been taken out of the opening FMV credits for it and has been replaced by Infinity Ward? Infinity Ward didn't even make the Wii version! What the hell is going on guys? This may be the reason why we haven't seen anything about the Wii version of this game if Infinity Ward has control of it. They probably don't want the public to know about Treyarch's version and only want Modern Warfare 2 to be shown first. Well isn't that just a "Fuck you Treyarch" and "thanks but no thanks for making Call of Duty 4 on Wii" this is just ridiculous.
yes now double them numbers to get a rough idea on 360/ps3 combined remember wii does these numbers all alone not with help of a dual console release ie 360 and PS3 combined
ReplyDeleteThe sad part is how they'll take the failures of their games see they'd rather write off the Wii then release a proper version of their games. The whole thing with Dead Space shows how out of touch and stupid developers and publishers really are. Wii gamers want quality proven games not half assed rail shooters or crap like Soul Calibur Legends, the sooner these fools acknowledge this the better their sales will be.
ReplyDeleteOf the 14 games you listed, I bought 9 of them. I couldn't bring myself to buy more than one on-rails shooter or I would have probably had more. Either way, if the game is well made, I will buy it. That's the biggest issue third parties seem to forget. Mature crap doesn't sell but mature gold does.
ReplyDeleteAnd I love your point about DSE being mature and also "easy for anyone to pick up." I think they dropped the ball on that one. Mature (or hardcore) games don't need complex controls but they do need to provide the gamer with freedom. And on-rails shooters severely lack that feature.
Activision makeing same mistakes like EA did with Extraction.
ReplyDeleteThere is no hype of MW Wii plus no videos and no new screenshots!
Game is already on torrents thanks to mighty pirates we will see videos and screens before Activision shows.
Publishers are suckers on this generation!
You make a good piont about Starfox And Soul Caliber those old gamecube games look great. I dont understand when they say the Wii has no graphical power why can't they just make new games look like the old ones RE4, Metroid Prime, Rogue Squadron, etc.
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ReplyDeletehttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sqr52KVGAEU
Activision want to ban videos like this. But the net can't forget ;-)
Sry 4 my bad English.
Greetings from Karlsruhe-Germany
its not righting of wii.... its 3rd party's trying to right-off Nintendo ,,they fear what is the biggest and best videogame company on the planet they fear the most profitable company on earth per employee.... its 3rd party's wanting a microsoft future of poor games,, no innovation and micrsoft cash hand outs the 3rd partys are not about gaming there about marketing and making profit..
ReplyDeletein 2020 games would still be played on dual-shocks if these people had there way....
they fear an industry bursting with innovation and forward thinking they fear change they want it all to just go away so they can cary on convincing kids with 360s that there HARDCORE its a reflection of just how twisted and out of touch with TRUE GAMER THINKING THESE IDIOTS ARE
Nintendo rules and they don't like it and activation don't want wii in the picture god forbid Nintendo does it the right way rolling my eyes....
if cod reflex developers have in fact done a great port ITS BECAUSE THEY CARE ABOUT THERE OWN TALENT BEING SHOWN AND CARE ABOUT A GAME THEY MAKE FOR WII REGARDLESS OF ACTIVTION AND WHO EVER ELSE IS A ANTI GAMER I.E ANTI NINTENDO
THEY VERY COMPANY THAT GAVE US D-PADS ANALOG STICKS MOTION ETC THERE WOULDN'T BE VIDEOGAMES IF IT WASN'T FOR NINTENDO
WAKE UP TO A ANTI NINTENDO CONSPIRACY..... BY SMALLER TOTALLY INEPT SO CALLED GAMES MAKERS
The fact that Activision is releasing this along with Modern Warfare 2, one of the most anticipated games of 2009, should have indicated that this is a quick cash-in. In fact, I had no idea they added "Reflex" on the title. WTF is that all about? Is just calling Call of Duty: Modern Warfare not enough?
ReplyDeleteI'm fed up with table scraps.
EA and Activision are not making "mistakes"...they are doing it on purpose. They want the Wii to fail. Everyone except Nintendo (and some of us scant few supporters) wants the Wii to fail.
ReplyDeleteThe implications of Wii success are doom's day'ish to 3rd parties and their multi-platform agreements.
Why we havent got any screenshots and videos yet? Becouse Infinity Ward is so jealous about well done MW Wii port by Treyarch. They even not allow Treyarch to use their logo in game(in credits only).
ReplyDeleteThey tell to us that the Wii is not capable platform to cinematic games like Modern Warfare and now Treyarch made great job by porting CoD4 engine. That makeing them angry.
Rubbish Activision are so worried about sells of their hyped MW2 game that they decided to not promote Wii port of previous game.
On neogaf is huge discusion abot it. Im starting hates Infinity Ward -they doing great games but they are so proud, fuckers!
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ReplyDeleteNot mine video but downloaded from youtube before Activision delate it.
if you want to see some game play paste this in your address bar http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6jnLByKeAKc it looks pretty good. so hurry cause I don't think activision knows about it yet.
ReplyDeletemonster hunter 3 not good looking not cinematic
ReplyDeleteseriously guys the world has gone mad
this is clearly 3rd party bad blood there biting there nails and pii-ing there pants at Nintendo untouchable success,, its child like foot stomping and cry babying by a industry that deserves to die..
so Nintendo can lead a new industry into a glorious future
ACTIVATION cod and guitar heroes will not last forever and soon your big fall will come WHILST NINTENDO RISE TO HEAVEN
AND YOU KNOW IT DON'T YOU ACTIVITION YOU JEALOUS FREAKS
From what I've been seeing and hearing from some people that have the game, MW Wii is really awesome. So awesome in fact that many are saying it's better than the HD versions because there are so many control options and overall better control than the dual stick versions. Not only that but the graphics look so close to the HD versions of the game you almost can't tell much difference. The only differences are less dynamic shadows from structures in levels and a little less shadows on the characters themselves, and 30 fps instead of 60 fps. The detail, lighting and textures have been faithfully reproduced amazingly and you can really see the painful effort that Treyarch has put into this game.
ReplyDeletePLAYING FPS ON WII = TRULLY CORE
ReplyDeletePLAYING FPS ON A DUALSHOCK IS OLD OBSOLETE AND DOWN RIGHT RUBBISH
IM GETTING THIS GAME IF POLISHED
Those number are pitiful considering that the Wii has the highest install base.
ReplyDeleteThe Conduit and Mad World had a ton of publicity and failed to impress. They can afford to spend a ton on advertising for MW2 because they know they'll get all that money back and then some. You cannot guarantee that on the Wii.
Not to mention that COD4 is an immensely popular two year old game. Anybody who is a multi-console owner probably already owns it. This game only caters to hard core gamers that only own a Wii and that my friend is a small install base.
mad world is a black and white niche game what planet are you on and conduit isn't very good
ReplyDeleteNintendo core don't buy rubbish
cod waw wii is now at around 2 million and is still selling
why are you bringing conduit into it
NINTENMDO FANS AND WII ARE SHIT BECAUSE A AVERAGE GAME GOT AVERAGE SALES
TRY MAKING SENSE
MR CAN I TELL YOU A HD HOME TRUTH SONY PS3 HASN'T HAD 1 SINGLE MILLION SELLER ON USA SOIL
THAT IS PITIFUL GET UR FACTS RIGHT
WII NAND DS HAVE MILLIONS APONE MILLIONS OF SOFTWARE SALES WITH """"EXCLUSIVE TITLES""""
5 MILLION 10 MILLION VS PS3 NOT ONE SINGLE TITLE HITS 1 MILLION IN USA AND PS3 OPERATES AT A HUGE LOSS
ALMOST ALL 3RD PARTYS EVEN WITH THERE BASD ATTITUDE TO NINTENDO REPORT HIGHEST EARNINGS ON WII AND DS
X360 FOLLOWS AND PS3 IS A DISTANT 3RD
WII IS THE MOST PROFITABLE AS IS DS
CONDUIT DIDNT DESERVE BIG SALES ITS NOT A HGH QUALITY TITLE ITS A HALF BAKED ATTEMPT THATS GOT GREAT CONTROLS BUT LACKS POLISH
NINTENDO CORE WONT BUY THAT IN HUGE NUMBERS
GIMPING GAMES WONT SELL ETHER
http://www.youtube.com/user/Raize9593
MADWOR;LD SELL MILLIONS A BLACK AND WHITE NICHE GAME
SHUT UP
you seem to be missing the point gian
ReplyDeletethe point is 3rd party bull shit
stop looking at wii its a inanimate object...
3rd party's are doing this NO-ONE ELSE
Out of curiosity, I went to Activision's website and - get this - Reflex isn't anywhere to be found. The game launches in 2 days and there's NOTHING on Activision's website about it. If anyone reading this is a gaming journalist who talks to these publishers, can you please ask why they treat Wii owners with such contempt? Why don't they try and market to the 50-odd milion people who have Wii consoles?
ReplyDeleteThis makes me wonder how many copies will be shipping out for the release day.
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