Nintendo tried to get the core gamer back with Wii U, but they only gave the Wii
U a slightly more amount of power than Xbox 360. They put one step forward in
this case and wanted to satisfy the Wii audience (that left for Smart Phones in
2011) and the other step in just getting decent low cost HD graphics to try to
satisfy core gamers.
Nintendo failed in satisfying both the previous Wii audience and the core gamer they wanted to get back with Wii U. Not causal enough and too bulky/slow for a smart phone user, not powerful enough and missing lots of features that the core gamer wanted.
Last year in 2014, consider this, Miyamoto basically said "Screw casual gamers and good riddance" here:
Nintendo failed in satisfying both the previous Wii audience and the core gamer they wanted to get back with Wii U. Not causal enough and too bulky/slow for a smart phone user, not powerful enough and missing lots of features that the core gamer wanted.
Last year in 2014, consider this, Miyamoto basically said "Screw casual gamers and good riddance" here:
“[These casual gamers are] the people who, for example, might
want to watch a movie. They might want to go to Disneyland,” Miyamoto told
Edge. “Their attitude is, ‘OK, I am the customer. You are supposed to entertain
me.’ It’s kind of a passive attitude they’re taking, and, to me, it’s
kind of a pathetic thing. They do not know how interesting it is if you move
one step further and try to challenge yourself [with more advanced games].”
“In the days of DS and Wii, Nintendo tried its best to expand the gaming population,” said Miyamoto. “Because of the spread of smart devices, people take games for granted now. [That’s] a good thing for us because we do not have to worry about making games something that are relevant to general people’s daily lives.”
“In the days of DS and Wii, Nintendo tried its best to expand the gaming population,” said Miyamoto. “Because of the spread of smart devices, people take games for granted now. [That’s] a good thing for us because we do not have to worry about making games something that are relevant to general people’s daily lives.”
http://venturebeat.com/2014/08/27/ma...ment-pathetic/
Before the Wii, Nintendo was being very competitive with the Gamecube, in fact in many aspects the Gamecube far exceeded PS2 in it's technically achievements. They knew that the console would not sell and not get game parity with the other consoles if the Gamecube was considered "weak" and difficult to port games to. The Wii was a commercial success that the $ made by Nintendo blinded them in thinking they could do it again with Wii U and bring back core gamers that couldn't stand the Wii's low res graphics......
So now going forward to 2016 with the NX, Nintendo has now openly admitted that casuals are not going to buy their hardware, they addressed already the Wii U's technical short comings (CPU mainly but the overall architecture goes with it), and developers who had open talks with Nintendo at E3 (they were witnessed having a lot more meetings than normal this year) are saying to publications like the Wall Street Journal that with NX, they are putting "Industry Leading Chips" in the system in direct response to the Wii U not being able to compete with competitors.
This would be the first time since Nintendo 64 that Nintendo has been touting graphics and processing power so early in development. Even with Gamecube they downplayed the specs (even though Gamecube was a beast), and with the Wii they talked basically only about revolutionary new gameplay and interaction.
Earlier this year, Iwata almost gave away what we have been getting leaks about when he said:
Before the Wii, Nintendo was being very competitive with the Gamecube, in fact in many aspects the Gamecube far exceeded PS2 in it's technically achievements. They knew that the console would not sell and not get game parity with the other consoles if the Gamecube was considered "weak" and difficult to port games to. The Wii was a commercial success that the $ made by Nintendo blinded them in thinking they could do it again with Wii U and bring back core gamers that couldn't stand the Wii's low res graphics......
So now going forward to 2016 with the NX, Nintendo has now openly admitted that casuals are not going to buy their hardware, they addressed already the Wii U's technical short comings (CPU mainly but the overall architecture goes with it), and developers who had open talks with Nintendo at E3 (they were witnessed having a lot more meetings than normal this year) are saying to publications like the Wall Street Journal that with NX, they are putting "Industry Leading Chips" in the system in direct response to the Wii U not being able to compete with competitors.
This would be the first time since Nintendo 64 that Nintendo has been touting graphics and processing power so early in development. Even with Gamecube they downplayed the specs (even though Gamecube was a beast), and with the Wii they talked basically only about revolutionary new gameplay and interaction.
Earlier this year, Iwata almost gave away what we have been getting leaks about when he said:
"I intentionally chose to announce the development of NX so
early because I wanted to confirm the fact that we are developing a new
dedicated video game platform, that we have never lost passion regarding the
future for dedicated video game systems and that we have bright prospects for
them. Though I cannot confirm when it will be launched or any other
details of the system, since I have confirmed that it will be "a dedicated
video game platform with a brand new concept"
"Your question also included the "current notion of thinking about home consoles and handheld devices." When it comes to how dedicated game systems are being played, the situations have become rather different, especially between Japan and overseas.Since we are always thinking about how to create a new platform that will be accepted by as many people around the world as possible, we would like to offer to them "a dedicated video game platform with a brand new concept" by taking into consideration various factors, including the playing environments that differ by country. This is all that I can confirm today."
"Your question also included the "current notion of thinking about home consoles and handheld devices." When it comes to how dedicated game systems are being played, the situations have become rather different, especially between Japan and overseas.Since we are always thinking about how to create a new platform that will be accepted by as many people around the world as possible, we would like to offer to them "a dedicated video game platform with a brand new concept" by taking into consideration various factors, including the playing environments that differ by country. This is all that I can confirm today."
http://www.gamnesia.com/news/iwata-h...xs-new-concept
This "brand new concept" is looking very much like the leaks we have been getting about a console that can have a mobile unit play the same games away from your home. However I do believe that this new console, since it's going to be dedicated to gamers and not casuals, as was specified by them, will in fact be Nintendo going back to being competitive with the Tech they put into the console. A "Gamers Console" needs to have all the bells and whistles to have game parity and get an edge over the other gaming consoles to be successful.
This "brand new concept" is looking very much like the leaks we have been getting about a console that can have a mobile unit play the same games away from your home. However I do believe that this new console, since it's going to be dedicated to gamers and not casuals, as was specified by them, will in fact be Nintendo going back to being competitive with the Tech they put into the console. A "Gamers Console" needs to have all the bells and whistles to have game parity and get an edge over the other gaming consoles to be successful.
I think Wii U basically means: "Ok, ok I get it now" for Nintendo with the NX.
nintendo is embracing the future
ReplyDeletethe power is needed not just for fanboying or hardcore its needed for a future were every device is HD and every device is more powerful,we are almost tapped out on NM die sizes and how many chips we can pack in...
by focusing on great controllers and high power and lots of exclusives and accounts and services they can maintain the idea of gaming hardware
we have all these silly smart phones and smart tvs and all these casual devices gaming can be found, nintendo is in the gaming business and is the center point of everything gaming
we wouldnt have analog sticks d-pads and wii remotes IF IT WASNT FOR NINTENDO we wouldnt have 9 axis gyro
nintendo isnt just a company making money THEY ARE GAMING if nintendo went third party or died tomorrow THERE WOULD BE NO ONE NOT ONE SINGLE COMPANY OR ENTITY TAKING GAMING FORWARD
nintendo is the commonsense company when it comes to interaction and mechanics,i want to see them use it now for high end core gaming from zelda to fps to rts to sports games
make gaming better high powered hardware will give nintendo a red ocean market and the smart devices a blue ocean market
they need to serv everyone,if consumers continue to go the casual way gaming will disapear,gaming needs to hit the wow factor again
pc gaming and industry gaming is becoming very borring and samey
it’s kind of a pathetic thing. They do not know how interesting it is if you move one step further and try to challenge yourself [with more advanced games].”
ReplyDeletethis includes alot of ps xbox and pc fans there emotionally attached BRAND LOYAL to OUTDATED/ ARCADIC
dualshock loyalty for instance this is a weird strange bizzare atachment DUALSHOCK IS OUTDATED AND MECHANICALLY CLUNKY CLUMCY JANKY
why have more and more power if the interface is 20 years old it makes NO SENSE gaming can only evolve if the controls evolve
when gaming went 3d from 2d nintendo gave us the analog stick,when gaming webt fps third person and pc nintendo gave us the wii remote and 9 axis gyro
things that are PATHETIC includes xbox and playstation there fanbase is PATHETIC dualshock IS NOT a fps controller it is not a full screen interaction controller
playing fps with a dualshock 9 YEARS AFTER THE WII REMOTE CAME ALONG ISNT JUST PATHETIC ITS DOWN RIGHT STUPID AND STUBBEN ITS BLIND EMOTIONAL ATTACHMENT TO BRAND NOT THE GOOD OF GAMING
WOULD A CHEF STAY EMOTIONALLY ATTACHED TO A FIRE IN THE WOODS IF SOMEONE INVENTED A STOVE THEN A MICROWAVE
would a formula one racing driver stay attached to a 1960s race car and not want a modden day high tech race car
would a fishermen stay attached to a line if someone invented a net to catch lots of fish
FANBOYS ARE THE BIGGEST THREAT TO NX THESE PEOPLE ARE LIKE LEMMINGS JUMPING OF A CLIFF
i havnt twin analog sticked fps since 2006 I MOVED ON A BETTER WAY WAS INVENTED !!!!!!!
I havnt played a non wii football tital since 2006 I MOVED ON PES WII ALLOWED ME TO CONTROL THE WHOLE TEAM IN REAL TIME COMBINING ALL MANNER OF ADVANCED PLAY MAKING VIDEO GAME FOOTBALL NEW FRESH AMAZING
SONY FANS ARE STILL CONTROLLING FIFA THE WAY THEY DID ON PS1 !!!!!!
im sick of STUPID PEOPLE destroying my HOBBY as a life long gamer i imagined a fps pointer in my hand many years ago NINTENDO GAVE ME ONE
i loved walking into toys R us andvexperiencing mario 64 analog stick MY MIND BLOWN AT CREEDVWALK RUN IN 3D WITH A STICK THAT MAKE MARIO REAL...
sony fans are usually NOT VERY BRIGHT PEOPLE there will always be a place for buttons and direction pads no one is saying otherwise BUT I WANT TOTAL CONTROL GIVE ME MOUSE POINTING AND 3D INTERFACE i want to do new things in games
sitting at a desktop CLUNKING AROUND with a qwerty keyboard and mouse DOESNT CUT IT wii remote and nunchuck is leaps and bounds BETTER than that
best fps i have ever played MECHANICS-CONTROLS prime 3 and COD wii and conduit
the nunchucks motion analog ridged edges and wii remotes blu tooth mouse and 3d and speaker feedback REVOLUTIONIZED FPS
best football game iv ever played PES WII the controls are MIND BLOWING
best rts over view world controls were you need to control multipul things on screen PIKMIN WITH A WII REMOTE -PLUS AMAZING
best shooter controls iv ever used outside of wii remote SPLATOON GYRO AIMING
if nintendo can combine a pad with a mouse pointer and the mouse wheel and add in cutting edge ways to control games in a do it all pad thats easy to hold,il be the happiest man alive
if i can slightly tilt the pad and have full screen wii remote pointing and analog stick and buttons and mouse wheel flipping thru wepons il be happy
touch screen thats easy to reach with your thumbs again would be great but im still very fond of wii remote and chuck THE UNDER USED AMAZING TOOL THE DUALSHOCK 1 BASED INDUSTRY IGNORED...
silent hill wii anazing mouse pointing and cinematic camera-pes wii-wii fps-pikmin etc etc all proved the dual analog way is OUT DATED...